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Trip: Clingmans Dome
Date: Saturday, July 14th, 2007
Trip Host: Marsha Conner
Location: Clingmans Dome
Great Smoky Mountains National Park
Tennessee
Cost: Carry cash for fuel sharing, parking & dinner.
Difficulty: Reasonable Split - 20% Easy, 60% Moderate, 20% Strenuous
Length: Several Options - This will be a timed format. We will pick our return time at the parking lot before departure. Should have between 4-5 good hours to hike either trails and/or lookout tower. Based on your pace, you may get in 2-3 miles out on any given trail and then return (return will take longer due to climb and elevation).
Blaze: AT trail White blaze.
Do not know about Forney Ridge Trail, or Forney Creek Trail.
Departs From:
7:00 AM Gainesville City Limits
7:15 AM Lula (Hwy 52) Intersection on GA 365
(Will only stop here if prearranged for carpooling or to meet up)
Departure Time:
Meals: A reasonable breakfast is recommended (there are several places to stop on the highway to pick up something to eat as you travel if need be). Pack your lunch/snacks for the day as part of your gear. Be sure to carry enough fluids. Dinner will be in Cherokee after leaving the park around 4:30 PM. (Shoney's will have a seafood buffet which is quick, priced right, and reasonably good, but each car may pick their own location.)
Transportation: POV's with carpooling, or drive on own. If you need transportation you can post an email to the hike group email list.

(Always be prepared to drive your own vehicle if necessary. If you carpool, fuel costs should be shared.)

GPS Info:
USGS Quad:
Ranger District:
Schedule: The projected  timeline with distances and events: Due to traffic, & different paces, times are all approximate. If you wish to carpool, let Jeremy or Marsha know or plan on meeting at one of the "meet up" locations shown.  Check with your driver to know their plans for the day.

7:00 AM Depart Gainesville City Limits
7:15 AM Pass through Lula Intersection on GA 365 @ 7:15 AM
 (Will only stop here if prearranged for carpooling or to meet up)
8:45 AM Break at Smoky Mountain Welcome Center near Franklin (15 min. max)
10:00 AM Break on Hwy 441 N on the North side of Cherokee at the Citgo Station for fuel about (15 min. max)
10:45 AM Arrive at Clingman's Dome parking lot.
11:00 AM Safety briefing at Marsha's Jeep Wagon.
4:00 PM Return to Clingman's Dome parking lot for check in.
5:00 PM Dinner in Cherokee
9:00 PM Return to Gainesville City Limits

PLEASE REMEMBER:  Time lines are provided as projections and you may move in and out of the schedule as needed, but please let the hike planner known your intentions.  Things may move faster or slower than our projections due to many variables.  This hike will go rain or shine and will only be canceled for weather conditions which would be a safety hazard to the participants.  This is summertime please remember to carry plenty of water. Don't forget your bug spray!

Schedule Subject to change. Allow time for the trip to take longer.

Trail Description: Trail One - Silers Bald (via the AT sectional from Clingman's Dome westbound). Scenery is good, in and out of forest, but it is 5 miles to the Bald. You can reach Double Spring Gap at appx. 2.5 miles out. This is a downhill hike outbound starting at appx. 6500' down to 5400" at Double Spring Gap (where the Goshen Prong Trail intersects from the right).  The Double Spring shelter on the AT is another .7 mile further.

Trail Two - Andrews Bald (via the Forney Ridge Trail from Clingman's Dome southbound).  Scenery is good, in and out of forest, and the Bald can be reached in appx. 2 miles.  At mile 1.0, the Forney Creek Trail intersects from the right.  This is a downhill hike outbound starting at appx. 6500' down to 5800' at the Bald.

Plan B: (in the event of adverse weather at the top)
Kephart Shelter Trail is located appx. 7 miles inside the park boundary north of Cherokee on Hwy 441. Scenery is good with forest growth and water crossings.  This trail crosses an old CCC campground, and an old forest service fish hatchery.  This is a 2 mile hike outbound and has an uphill grade. Starting elevation is 2800' rising to 3500' at the shelter. This is a very popular day hike for tourists.
Notes: NOTE 1:
Traffic on Hwy 441 through Cherokee and into the GSMNP can be unpredictable on weekends. Our times may be slightly better (by 15-30 min.) or could be worse (by up to an hour), so if you have cell coverage, share information accordingly with those you can reach. Be flexible and have patience

NOTE 2:
As the weather conditions atop Clingmans Dome change very quickly please be prepared for adverse conditions which could arise after we begin hiking.

The unpredictable weather at the top of Newfound Gap across the Smoky Mountains can change so easily that the Clingman's Dome area can be "socked in" while it is clear below at a lower elevation. Should we be prevented from hiking at Clingman's Dome due to bad weather, we will have an optional location at a lower elevation in the park on Hwy 441 between Cherokee and Newfound Gap. A change would not be made unless absolutely necessary for safety. Since this would be a last minute change, we might not know that we have to change trails until we are actually at Clingman's Dome. Please be understanding and flexible with us regarding this aspect of the Smokies.


NOTE 3:  

PLEASE REMEMBER THE ELEVATION OF CLINGMAN'S DOME !
Hiking at 6500' will have a very different affect on our bodies than our hikes at 2000' - 3000'. Descending outbound on the trails from Clingman's Dome may feel easy, but the hike uphill as you return will take longer and be harder on your body than expected. Please allow longer to return than it took you to go outbound, but take your time and use care.

PLEASE REMEMBER YOUR FLUID INTAKE AND CARRY ENOUGH !
The hike to Panther Creek Falls showed us what 85% humidity and temps in the 90's feels like (especially in the last 1.5 miles returning). Yes, fluids weigh you down, but are a necessity. You may want to consider carrying some Gatoraide type fluid on the trail with you as well as your water.  Also consider having a cooler in your vehicle with additional fluids and ice available for you upon return. If you do use all your fluids on the trail, knowing a cooler of ice and cold fluids awaits you at your car can be a great motivator to finish that last mile or so a little drier than you would desire. In case you have injured a joint on the trail or become too hot, the ice can be very important for treatment. Just have a bag or towel to wrap it in with your cooler.

PLEASE REMEMBER THAT WE WILL BE IN A NATIONAL PARK !
You can go to the website for our national parks and read about specific rules and regulations for GSMNP. Go to: www.nps.gov We will be in BEAR country, so remember your safety guidelines. Knoxville has great medical care, but I prefer not to spend my Saturday night in the ER.

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Walk at your own pace!  Try to walk with someone when possible and try to stay in sight or sound of the main group which means the lead hikers may need to slow or stop to let the rear hikers catch up. This is a good reason to carry a whistle on you at all times. Lead hikers should stop at all trail intersections to let everyone gather before moving forward.

If you need a potty break while on the trail, just let someone know you are leaving the trail for a few moments and have that person wait nearby until you return. If you should feel ill or become weak while hiking, let Jeremy or Marsha know immediately. Do not push yourself forward on the trail under adverse conditions. One of us will work with you to maintain your safety. If you have any medical concerns that need to be known, be certain a hiking partner or Jeremy/Marsha know about any issues that could require immediate attention.

Carpoolers should share the cost of fuel when returning to their base location.

If you have any questions regarding the logistics for this hike, please contact Jeremy Landers. If you are signing up to hike or have transportation issues, contact Jeremy Landers.  More info on our hiking plans can be found at:  www.LandersStudions.com/gechike

PLEASE - DO NOT CONTACT THE CHURCH OFFICE REGARDING THE HIKES. THE CHURCH OFFICE DOES NOT HANDLE OUR PLANS NOR ROSTER FOR THIS ACTIVITY. CONTACT JEREMY OR MARSHA DIRECTLY.

Marsha:  Email
Jeremy:  Email or (770-861-8175 Cell)
Marsha
HIKE  AT  YOUR  OWN  PACE - BUT  HIKE  WITH  A  PARTNER  OR IN  SIGHT  OR  SOUND  OF  YOUR  GROUP  FOR  SAFETY.
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Directions: Go north on Hwy 365 which becomes Hwy 441. Follow Hwy 441 north, take the Franklin, NC by-pass and stay on Hwy 441 to Cherokee, NC. Follow Hwy 441 through Cherokee (there is a by-pass here if you want to use it to avoid traffic). Leave Cherokee north on Hwy 441 and enter the Great Smoky Mountain National Park (speed limit drops to 45 mph and is enforced (hopefully). Climb the mountains and near the top look for a sign directing you to make a left hand turn off of Hwy 441 to go higher to Clingman's Dome. The Clingman's Dome Road is 9 miles to the parking lot.
Reservations: Yes, Make Reservation with Jeremy /
770-861-8175 or Click Here To Email
Deadline to Sign Up: Wednesday June 6, 2007

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Please take a moment to read the Participation Guidlines prior to hiking with the Grace Church Hike Group.

Additional Info For All Hikes
Information provided by Marsha Conner

ICE  INFO
(In Case Of Emergency)

We are now carrying ICE forms with us for safety. The hike planner will
be responsible for being sure these cards are on the trail.  A form in a
sealed yellow envelope with critical contact and medical data on each
hiker will be available in case of emergencies.  You are required to fill
out the emergency contact information however the medical information
is optional, should an emergency arise, this data would go with you for
medical treatment and provide contact information for your relatives
and medical information at the ER that should be known.  Many of us have
ICE phone numbers in our cell phones, but our cell phones may not work
in some wilderness areas.

WHAT  TO  CARRY
You should be self-sufficient on the trail. Do not plan to borrow items you
do not have from people hiking with you. They may not have what you need
or they may need it for themselves. Carefully look over the trail description and
map before going, ask questions, and make sure that you are physically able to
handle the terrain, the temperatures, the possible wetness, and the other
interesting things that might happen to us while on the trail! As always we
set our hiking pace to accomadate everyone. So don't think you'll be too slow.
Jeremy & Marsha are always willing to help you to be trail ready.

1.  Daypack
2.  Water/Fluid Supplies
3.  Food/Snack Supplies
4.  Cash and Photo ID (ID should be on your person at all times)
5.  Other Outdoor Supplies
6. 4 AA Batteries to use in our walkie talkies.

1.  Packs:
a.  Plan and pack for medical emergencies including
     blisters, bug bites, allergies, cuts, etc.
b.  At least one snake bite kit (Sawyer style) should be
     with the group (sold in most sporting goods depts).
c.  Weather change needs such as poncho, emergency
     blanket, cap, gloves, wind jacket, etc.
d.  Cell phone (in case it might work) and other
     items important to you for personal safety or comfort

2.  Water/Fluid Supplies
a.  Plan on carrying a cooler in your vehicle with ice to keep
food and fluids cold throughout the trip
b.  Carry enough fluid with you for the designated trail hike
c.  Do  Not  Drink  Water  From  Streams - most mountain
    water is no longer safe to drink as they may contain
    protozoan imps and make you very sick

3.  Food/Snack Supplies
a.  Short hikes may only require a light snack
     on the trail (1-2 miles) - plan accordingly
b.  Longer hikes usually require a moderate
     snack on the trail (3-4 miles) - plan accordingly
c.  Remember that your appetite is enhanced by
    being outdoors and doing physical activity

4.  Cash and ID
a.  Carry bills in different increments especially "ones"
     for park entrance fees and incidentals - each
     person is responsible for their own fees and should
     share any group cost for parking and fuel
b. The cost of fule is to be shared between driver and
passengers.
c.  For your safety, have your ID with you on the trail at
all times.
d.  Do not leave valuables in your parked car which you
    cannot afford to have stolen!

5.  Other Outdoor Supplies
a.  Camera, Flash Card(s) or film
b.  Binoculars
c.  Sun hat
d.  Knife and compass
e.  Extra socks if prone to blisters
f.  Bug spray
g.  Sting relief especially if you are
     allergic to insect stings
h.  Hiking pole or sticks
i.   Sweat towel and/or bandana
j. Large Pepper Spray (for animal attacks and personal protection)


6. Hunting Season
Remember your Blaze Orange During Hunting Seasons.

UPON RETURNING HOME

1.  Critical - Shower and check your body - CAREFULLY -
     for ticks (if a tick has attached itself to your skin, do
     not crush its body while removing it, but lift it away
     from your skin and pull out by the legs - treat the area
     properly and watch for any redness - if redness appears
     seek medical attention promptly)

2.  Clean and treat any wounded areas of your body -
     use ice for first 24-48 hours on joint/muscle injuries
     and heat as swelling subsides

3.  Consider keeping a log of your hiking experiences and
     write your story in a journal while memories are fresh

4.  Develop pictures and share copies with your hikers

GENERAL  GUIDELINES  TO  REMEMBER

1.  Leave pets at home if hiking with a group. More Info

2.  Keep groups on the trail to no more than 4-6 together

3.  Walk single file in the middle of the trail

4.  Step to the side of the trail as you go downhill
     to allow hikers going uphill to have the right of way

5.  Do not wade with your boots on unless necessary
     Wet socks and shoes can create immediate blisters

6.  Swift water can cause you to lose your footing in
     6-12 inches of water so do not be fooled that you
     can wade without danger across a stream

7.  Snakebites are a critical concern to hikers
     THINK before putting your hands and feet anywhere
     that might be a place of hiding for a snake:
     a.  Step on the top of logs - not over them
     b.  Use your hiking pole to check on the backside
          of logs and rocks before sitting down
     c.  Stay on the trail where visibility is better

8.  Read the many different theories on protection
     from bears and other wildlife - bears are most
     aggressive when protecting their cubs and stay
     near water and food sources frequently - bears
     do not "growl" but will make a "grunting" noise
     to let you know they see you when you may not
     see them - stop, back away slowly, and move
     back down the trail without hesitation - do not
     mistake a "grunting" noise for random woods noise
     on a trail as it may only be made one time to give
     you one chance to back away. Carry a large pepper spray.

9.  Let members of your hiking group know your intentions
    in case you decide to return to the parking lot or leave
     for the day. 

10. Remember that the GEC Open Hike each month will
     have a mixed skill level and cooperation as a team is needed.
     The monthly planner has volunteered to set up the hike
      and there may be slight differences with each hike.
      There is room for both the scenic hiker and the extreme
      hiker with good communication and proper planning.

More information on Hiker Safety can be found at the following websites.
Georgia State Park Safe Hiking Tips

http://www.redcross.org/services/hss/tips/hiking.html


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