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Rock Gap, North Carolina to Tellico Gap North Carolina
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Overnight Backpack Trip
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Data Updated: Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:20:12 PM
Trip: Appalachian Trail

Rock Gap, NC to Tellico Gap, NC - Overnight Backpack Trip
Status: Confirmed
Note: THE OVERNIGHT PORTION OF THIS TRIP IS FULL! We cannot accept additional reservations for the overnight portion of this trip at this time! If you would like to be put on the waiting list or sign up for a day hike option please contact Jeremy.

Trip goes rain or shine, unless weather conditions will be severe or extremely wet.
Date: October 25 - 27, 2013
Trip Host: Jeremy Landers
770-861-8175
Location: Appalachian Trail

Macon County NC

Nearest City: Franklin, NC

Weather: Using the GPS coordinates below use the www.weather.gov or another weather pinpoint forecast for the trail area indicated.

Winding Stair Gap
35.119633
-83.547966

Wayah Shelter
35.18945
-83.5644

Siler Bald Shelter
35.14421
-83.57247

Burningtown Gap
35.222333
-83.562233

Wayah Bald
35.18032
-83.56065

Tellico Gap
35.268033
-83.57255


Cost: Carry cash for fuel sharing, emergencies and non trail meals.
Difficulty: Moderate with some strenuous spots.

See options below for day hike difficulty

Length: Complete Hike
23.1 Miles over three days
7.9 Miles on Day 1
8.1 Miles on Day 2
7.1 Miles on Day 3




Optional Day Hikes Only*

Below you will find several options for day hikes ranging in difficulty from easy / moderate to strenuous. If you are interested in any of the options below please let Jeremy know so we can work on the logistics on meetups.

*NOTE:
If you are meeting us at any point it will be VERY critical that you be at the appointed meetup location on time. We will not have daylight hours to wait for your arrival beyond the appointed time. Please let Jeremy know as soon as possible if you are considering a day hike option. Some access is from Forest Service Roads and we will need to plan access logistics.

Friday:
Friday Option #1:
Hike with us from Rock Gap to Winding Stair Gap. Approx 3.7 mile moderate to strenuous one way hike or 7.4 round trip.662 Foot elevation gain in first mile, remainder moderate.

Friday Option #2
Hike with us from US Hwy 64 at Winding Stair Gap to Panther Gap and back. Moderate hike of 4.2 miles round trip.

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Saturday:
Saturday Option #1:
Park at the Wayah Bald Parking area at USFS 69. Hike South on the AT and meet us. Hike can be as far out as you are willing to hike back to your vehicle. Once back to the parking area you can hike up to the fire tower which offers outstanding views. Would make for a good four to five mile hike.

Saturday Option #2:
Park at the Wayah Bald Parking area at USFS 69. Meet us as we come by, then hike to the old stone fire tower, offering outstanding views. Return to your vehicle. 0.4 Round trip easy walk on paved pathway.

Saturday Option #3:
Park at the Wayah Bald Parking area at USFS 69. Meet us as we come by, then hike to the old stone fire tower, offering outstanding views, continue with us until we reach Wayah Shelter. Round Trip hike 2.2 Miles.

Wayah shelter is in memory of Ann & Larry McDuff, brother & sister-inlaw of Grace member Doug McDuff. Ann & Larry were both avid hikers, having hiked many thousand miles together on the Appalachian, Pacific Coast, and Continental Divide Trails. They hiked under the trail name "Annie & The Salesman" and were killed in separate bicycle accidents a few years apart. See "Links & Ref." Below for additional information.

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Sunday:
Park at NC1365 at Tellico Gap, hike in and meet us to hike out together. Again hike in as far as you are willing to hike back out.


*NOTE:
If you are meeting us at any point it will be VERY critical that you be at the appointed meetup location on time. We will not have daylight hours to wait for your arrival beyond the appointed time. Please let Jeremy know as soon as possible if you are considering a day hike option. Some access is from Forest Service Roads and we will need to plan access logistics.

Blaze: White Rectangle (Appalachian Trail)
Departs From: Grace Church
Departure Time: Friday October 25, 2013
6:30 am Meet up at Grace Church
6:45 am Departs Grace Church
Meals: Bring adequate food for 2 breakfasts, 3 lunches, 2 dinners as well as any snacks. You should be prepared to properly store your food overnight to prevent critters & bears from getting your food supply.

(Click Here For A YouTube Video On How To Hang A Bear Bag)

Odor Proof Bags can be purchased at www.simpleoutdoorstore.com
These bags work great!

Please note: ZipLoc bags are NOT odor proof! However using regular ZipLoc bags inside of a larger Odor Proof Bag is a great way to cut down on cost and keep your food separated!

Transportation: POV's with carpooling, or drive on own. If you need transportation you can post an email to the hike group email list.

(Always be prepared to drive your own vehicle if necessary. If you carpool, fuel costs should be shared.)

Car Drop at Each Trail End
GPS Info: The GPS files & related links below are provided as a courtesy. Pleases verify all route & waypoint information before heading out on the trail.

To decompress the Zipped files, you will need a decompression program, such as UnStuffit, WinZip or PKZip.

Rock-Gap-To-Tellico-Gap.gpx (Oct 2013)


GPS / GIS Data From ATC
USGS Quad:
Ranger District: Nantahala Ranger Dist. Nantahala National Forest, Formerly the Wayah District .
Schedule: All times are approximate and are subject to change without notice!

DAY 1

6:30am Meet at Grace Church

6:45am Dept. Grace Church

7:45am Race Trac Clayton, Ga - Restroom Break

8:00am Depart Race Trac

8:45am Day Hiker Car Drop at Winding Stair Gap

9:00am Arrive at
Standing Indian Campground, NC Site #13. Restroom Break.

9:15am Depart Standing Indian Campground

9:30am Arrive at Rock Gap - Safety Briefing

9:45am Depart Rock Gap on AT North

10:05am Reach Wallace Gap, Cross old US 64 ascend steps.

12:15pm Winding Stair Gap, US HWY 64, Water, Parking (Optional lunch with day hikers, optional day hiker depart.)

1:00pm Campsite just before Swinging Lick Gap - LUNCH - Day hikers turn back

1:30pm Depart Swinging Lick Gap.

2:15pm (Day Hikers arrive back at Winding Stair Gap & depart for Gainesville)

2:15pm Panther Gap, Campsites no water

3:45pm Southern End of Siler Bald Shelter Trail

4:15pm Siler Bald Shelter (Privy, Water, Cables)

--------Setup camp, filter water, cook supper, etc.... Bed!

6:30pm Approx Sunset

DAY 2

7:49am Approximate Sunrise

8:00am Breakfast, Clean up Breakfast, Re-Supply Water, Break Camp, etc....

9:30am Depart Siler Bald Shelter

9:50am Siler Bald - Enjoy views (Note: Siler Bald can be dangerous in bad weather & fog)

10:15am Depart Siler Bald

11:30am Wayah Crest Picnic Area, (Trash Cans, Parking) (4247ft) Paved NC 1310,

12:15pm USFS 69, Meadow

12:20pm Blue blazed trail to left leads 0.2mile W to Wilson Lick Ranger Station Historic Site.

1:15pm Meadow Campsites & Water LUNCH

1:45pm Depart Meadow

3:00pm Wayah Bald Parking Area USFS 69 (Latrines) HIKER MEET UP. Hikers meeting up with the group should plan to be at this location no later than 2:30pm.

3:15pm Depart Wayah Bald Parking Area

3:30pm Wayah Bald Fire Tower (5342ft)

3:45pm Depart Fire Tower

4:30 Wayah Bald Shelter, Water (Note: Additional camping at Licklog Gap 1.3 mile ahead, has water 0.5 off trail)

5:15 Licklog Gap???

--------Setup camp, filter water, cook supper, etc.... Bed!

6:46pm Approx. Sunset


DAY 3

7:50am Approximate Sunrise

8:00am Breakfast, Clean up Breakfast, Re-Supply Water, Break Camp, etc....

9:30am Depart Licklog Gap (or Wayah Bald Shelter)

10:45am AT turns East at intersection with old road / side trails.

11:30am Burningtown Gap, NC 1397, Parking,

12:15pm Cold Spring Shelter, Privy, LUNCH

1:15pm Depart Cold Spring Shelter

2:00pm Copper Ridge Bald, Views

2:45pm Side Trail to Rocky Bald, views.

4:15pm Tellico Gap, Parking, NC 1365 Otter Creek Road

6:00pm Pick up vehicle at Rock Gap

6:30pm Dinner at Huddle House, Franklin, NC

6:45pm Approximate Sunset

7:15pm Depart Franklin, NC

8:45pm Return to Grace Parking Lot

All times are approximate and are subject to change without notice!

Trail Description:
Miles by Day

Hiked
Remain
Miles
To Tellico Gap
Miles From Rock Gap Trail Description GPS
(Locations are approximate & unverified)
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Elevation
0.0
7.9
23.1 0.0 Parking area at Rock Gap.(3757ft)
Paved USFS 67 leads left one mile to Standing Indian Campground. To right 0.5 mile Wallace Gap. Side trail to right leads 1.7 mile (RdT) to the John Wasilik Memorial Poplar. (This tree, now dead, is the second largest yellow-poplar in the United States, with an 8.6-foot diameter and a 27-foot circumference).

AT bears to right.
35.094234,
-83.522453

3757
0.6
7.3
22.5 0.6 Wallace Gap (3738 ft). The AT crosses old US 64 and ascends a flight of steps. 35.09802
-83.52663

3738
0.8
7.1
22.3 0.8 Cross Stream
1.2
6.7
21.9 1.2 Small level area (campsite). Continue up log steps.
3.1
4.8
20.0 3.1 Cross Stream
3.6
4.3
19.5 3.6 Winding Stair Gap, US Hwy 64, parking areas (2), piped spring east of steps. Trail turns right, follows highway for approx 200 ft. crosses highway, ascends then turns left into woods. 35.119633
-83.547966

3770
3.9
4.0
19.2 3.9 Forest Service Road, Waterfall 35.12153
-83.54765

3749
4.0
3.9
19.1 4.0 Stream Crossing & Possible Campsite 3814
4.3
3.6
18.8 4.3 Logging Road 4018
4.6
3.3
18.5 4.6 Campsite and another stream crossing.
4.8
3.1
18.3 4.8 Swinging Lick Gap. AT makes sharp right. Continue ascent. 35.12106
-83.55841

4100
5.7
2.2
17.4 5.7 Panther Gap. Campsites, NO water. 4480
7.4
0.5
15.7 7.4 Southern End of Siler Bald Shelter Trail. Blue Blazed trail to right leads approx 0.5 mile to Siler Bald Shelter.
AT bears left continuing on old roadbed. Shelter has Privy, Water, Cables. Tent sites in meadow beyond shelter.
35.140415
-83.57048

4786



Siler Bald Shelter 35.14421
-83.57247

4600
7.9
0.0

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0.00
8.1
15.2 7.9 North end of Siler Bald Shelter Trail. Blue Blazed trail leads right E 0.6 Mile to Siler Bald Shelter.
To left W trail leads 0.2 mile onto Siler Bald and Great views.
35.142315
-83.576187

5012
1.2
6.9
14.0 9.1 Piped Spring 35.148102
-83.5825653

4477
1.5
6.6
13.7 9.4 Footbridge, Stream 4366
1.6
6.5
13.6 9.5 Wayah Crest Picnic Area, "Upscale Privy", Trash Cans, Paved NC 1310 Parking
AT goes straight across road & ascends into the woods.
35.15395
-83.580733

4247
1.7
6.4
13.5 9.6 Wayah Gap, Wayah Road 35.153904
-83.580223

4180
2.1
6.0
13.1 10.0 AT Skirts USFS 69 4353
2.5
5.6
12.7 10.4 USFS 69, Meadow 4497
2.9
5.2
12.3 10.8 Blue Blazed Trail leading 0.2W to Wilson Lick Ranger Station Historic Site 4659
3.5
4.6
11.7 11.4 USFS 69, Piped spring to right (East) 5036
3.8
4.3
11.4 11.7 Junction with Yellow Blazed Bartram Trail to left. 5290
3.9
4.2
11.2 11.9 Meadow. Campsite & Wine Spring Rd.0.1E. Water on West side of AT 5290
4.2
3.9
11 12.1 Trail bears left off old road, which continues to Wine Spring Road.
5.5
2.6
9.7 13.4 USFS 69 5213
5.7
2.4
9.5 13.6 Wayah Bald Parking Area. 35.178301457
-83.56243656

5315
5.9
2.2
9.3 13.8 Stone Fire Tower at Wayah Bald 35.18032
-83.56065

5342
6.1
2.0
9.1 14.0 Cross woods road. Bartram trail (Yellow Blazes) turns right here & leaves AT.
6.5
1.6
8.7 14.4 Campsite & spring to left 4902
6.8
1.3
8.4 14.7 Wayah Shelter (East),Water (West 0.2), Privy (GET WATER HERE??) 35.187794
-83.562023

4759
8.1
0.0
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0.00
7.1
7.1 16.0 Licklog Gap, large campsite area, water (0.5W) 35.2027
-83.5678

4440
1.5
5.6
5.6 17.5 Junction with old roads & side trails at a small clearing. AT turns East. 4502
2.0
5.1
5.1 18.0 Stream 4313
2.3
4.8
4.8 18.3 Burningtown Gap, large clearing, NC1397 Ben Creek Rd. Small parking area for one or two cars. 35.222333
-83.562233

4236
2.7
4.4
4.4 18.7 Spring 4513
3.5
3.6
3.6 19.5 Cold Spring Shelter (LUNCH)
Privy, Water, Campsites are on ridge above shelter
35.23109
-83.55996

4945
4.2
2.9
2.9 20.2 Cooper Ridge Bald, Vista just right of trail 5080
5.4
1.7
1.7 21.4 Side trail 0.1E o Rocky Bald, Views 5030
5.7
1.4
1.4 21.7 Campsite with good spring
7.1
0.00
0.00 23.1 Tellico Gap, Parking, NC 1365. Trail crosses under powerline. Gravel road to left leads four miles to state highway. Road ascending ahead leads to fire tower. AT bears left between the two roads. 35.268033
-83.57255

3850
Equipment Requirements: Please note this is a multi day / overnight hike. Each hiker is responsible for providing their own gear (tent, sleeping bag, cookware, food, clothing, rain gear, food storage, first aid, etc....). If you need assistance with equipment please contact one of the co-chairs.
Hunting Season: Please note that it will be Hunting Season in North Carolina while we will be hiking.
General Notes: Walk at your own pace!  Try to walk with someone when possible and try to stay in sight or sound of the main group which means the lead hikers may need to slow or stop to let the rear hikers catch up. This is a good reason to carry a whistle on you at all times. Lead hikers should stop at all trail intersections to let everyone gather before moving forward.

If you need a potty break while on the trail, just let someone know you are leaving the trail for a few moments and have that person wait nearby until you return. If you should feel ill or become weak while hiking, let Jeremy or Marsha know immediately. Do not push yourself forward on the trail under adverse conditions. One of us will work with you to maintain your safety. If you have any medical concerns that need to be known, be certain a hiking partner or Jeremy/Marsha know about any issues that could require immediate attention.

Carpoolers should share the cost of fuel when returning to their base location.

If you have any questions regarding the logistics for this hike, please contact Jeremy Landers. If you are signing up to hike or have transportation issues, contact Jeremy Landers.  More info on our hiking plans can be found at:  www.LandersStudions.com/gechike

PLEASE - DO NOT CONTACT THE CHURCH OFFICE REGARDING THE HIKES. THE CHURCH OFFICE DOES NOT HANDLE OUR PLANS NOR ROSTER FOR THIS ACTIVITY. CONTACT JEREMY OR MARSHA DIRECTLY.

Marsha:  Email
Jeremy:  Email or (770-861-8175 Cell)
Marsha
HIKE  AT  YOUR  OWN  PACE - BUT  HIKE  WITH  A  PARTNER  OR IN  SIGHT  OR  SOUND  OF  YOUR  GROUP  FOR  SAFETY.
Links & Ref. North Carolina Ranger Districts

National Forest Service Alerts - NC

Nantahala National Forest - Wayah District - Motor Vehicle Use Map- PDF

Wayah Bald Fire Tower

Wayah Shelter / McDuff Links
Smoky Mountain News Article Regarding the Shelter
Nantahala Hiking Club Photos
Annie & The Salesman - Continental Divide Trail Journal 2002
Annie & The Salesman - Pacific Crest Trail Journal
Remembering Annie & The Salesman - Wood Trails - Dave Brock
Nearest Hospital: Angel Medical Center

120 Riverview Street
Franklin, NC 28734
(828) 524-8411
angelmed.org
Photos
(NOT GEC Hike Group)
Click The Links below for Photos / websites I found for other peoples hikes

2000 Miler on Flicker
Photos by
GEC Hike Group
Map Nantahala National Forest - Wayah District - Motor Vehicle Use Map- PDF

Interactive AT Map from the ATC

Directions: Winding Stair Gap--
From Franklin, NC take US 64 West up & over Winding Stair Gap

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Rock Gap Parking Area -- From Franklin, NC take US 64 West up & over Winding Stair Gap turn left onto Old Murphy Road "Old 64" turn right on paved USFS 67, then 0.5 mile south to parking area. To reach Standing Indian Campground continue on USFS 67 and turn right at campground sign. Proceed to site13

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Wayah Bald Parking Area --

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Tellico Gap --


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Reservations: Contact Jeremy Landers
770-861-8175

Day Hike Deadline: Sunday October 20, 2013 - 12pm

Overnight Hike Deadline: Sunday October 13, 2013 - 5pm
THE OVERNIGHT PORTION OF THIS TRIP IS FULL!


*Special Notice Regarding Hikers Under 18 Years of Age!

Post Trip Review:

*Special Notice Regarding Hikers Under 18 Years of Age!


Please take a moment to read the Participation Guidlines prior to hiking with the Grace Church Hike Group.

Additional Info For All Hikes
Information provided by Marsha Conner

ICE  INFO
(In Case Of Emergency)

We are now carrying ICE forms with us for safety. The hike planner will
be responsible for being sure these cards are on the trail.  A form in a
sealed yellow envelope with critical contact and medical data on each
hiker will be available in case of emergencies.  You are required to fill
out the emergency contact information however the medical information
is optional, should an emergency arise, this data would go with you for
medical treatment and provide contact information for your relatives
and medical information at the ER that should be known.  Many of us have
ICE phone numbers in our cell phones, but our cell phones may not work
in some wilderness areas.

WHAT  TO  CARRY
You should be self-sufficient on the trail. Do not plan to borrow items you
do not have from people hiking with you. They may not have what you need
or they may need it for themselves. Carefully look over the trail description and
map before going, ask questions, and make sure that you are physically able to
handle the terrain, the temperatures, the possible wetness, and the other
interesting things that might happen to us while on the trail! As always we
set our hiking pace to accomadate everyone. So don't think you'll be too slow.
Jeremy & Marsha are always willing to help you to be trail ready.

1.  Daypack
2.  Water/Fluid Supplies
3.  Food/Snack Supplies
4.  Cash and Photo ID (ID should be on your person at all times)
5.  Other Outdoor Supplies
6. 4 AA Batteries to use in our walkie talkies.

1.  Packs:
a.  Plan and pack for medical emergencies including
     blisters, bug bites, allergies, cuts, etc.
b.  At least one snake bite kit (Sawyer style) should be
     with the group (sold in most sporting goods depts).
c.  Weather change needs such as poncho, emergency
     blanket, cap, gloves, wind jacket, etc.
d.  Cell phone (in case it might work) and other
     items important to you for personal safety or comfort

2.  Water/Fluid Supplies
a.  Plan on carrying a cooler in your vehicle with ice to keep
food and fluids cold throughout the trip
b.  Carry enough fluid with you for the designated trail hike
c.  Do  Not  Drink  Water  From  Streams - most mountain
    water is no longer safe to drink as they may contain
    protozoan imps and make you very sick

3.  Food/Snack Supplies
a.  Short hikes may only require a light snack
     on the trail (1-2 miles) - plan accordingly
b.  Longer hikes usually require a moderate
     snack on the trail (3-4 miles) - plan accordingly
c.  Remember that your appetite is enhanced by
    being outdoors and doing physical activity

4.  Cash and ID
a.  Carry bills in different increments especially "ones"
     for park entrance fees and incidentals - each
     person is responsible for their own fees and should
     share any group cost for parking and fuel
b. The cost of fule is to be shared between driver and
passengers.
c.  For your safety, have your ID with you on the trail at
all times.
d.  Do not leave valuables in your parked car which you
    cannot afford to have stolen!

5.  Other Outdoor Supplies
a.  Camera, Flash Card(s) or film
b.  Binoculars
c.  Sun hat
d.  Knife and compass
e.  Extra socks if prone to blisters
f.  Bug spray
g.  Sting relief especially if you are
     allergic to insect stings
h.  Hiking pole or sticks
i.   Sweat towel and/or bandana
j. Large Pepper Spray (for animal attacks and personal protection)


6. Hunting Season
Remember your Blaze Orange During Hunting Seasons.

UPON RETURNING HOME

1.  Critical - Shower and check your body - CAREFULLY -
     for ticks (if a tick has attached itself to your skin, do
     not crush its body while removing it, but lift it away
     from your skin and pull out by the legs - treat the area
     properly and watch for any redness - if redness appears
     seek medical attention promptly)

2.  Clean and treat any wounded areas of your body -
     use ice for first 24-48 hours on joint/muscle injuries
     and heat as swelling subsides

3.  Consider keeping a log of your hiking experiences and
     write your story in a journal while memories are fresh

4.  Develop pictures and share copies with your hikers

GENERAL  GUIDELINES  TO  REMEMBER

1.  Leave pets at home if hiking with a group. More Info

2.  Keep groups on the trail to no more than 4-6 together

3.  Walk single file in the middle of the trail

4.  Step to the side of the trail as you go downhill
     to allow hikers going uphill to have the right of way

5.  Do not wade with your boots on unless necessary
     Wet socks and shoes can create immediate blisters

6.  Swift water can cause you to lose your footing in
     6-12 inches of water so do not be fooled that you
     can wade without danger across a stream

7.  Snakebites are a critical concern to hikers
     THINK before putting your hands and feet anywhere
     that might be a place of hiding for a snake:
     a.  Step on the top of logs - not over them
     b.  Use your hiking pole to check on the backside
          of logs and rocks before sitting down
     c.  Stay on the trail where visibility is better

8.  Read the many different theories on protection
     from bears and other wildlife - bears are most
     aggressive when protecting their cubs and stay
     near water and food sources frequently - bears
     do not "growl" but will make a "grunting" noise
     to let you know they see you when you may not
     see them - stop, back away slowly, and move
     back down the trail without hesitation - do not
     mistake a "grunting" noise for random woods noise
     on a trail as it may only be made one time to give
     you one chance to back away. Carry a large pepper spray.

9.  Let members of your hiking group know your intentions
    in case you decide to return to the parking lot or leave
     for the day. 

10. Remember that the GEC Open Hike each month will
     have a mixed skill level and cooperation as a team is needed.
     The monthly planner has volunteered to set up the hike
      and there may be slight differences with each hike.
      There is room for both the scenic hiker and the extreme
      hiker with good communication and proper planning.

More information on Hiker Safety can be found at the following websites.
Georgia State Park Safe Hiking Tips

http://www.redcross.org/services/hss/tips/hiking.html


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